test-p vs test-e or test cyp and npp vs. deca

  • NoviceMuscleHead
    test-p vs test-e or test cyp and npp vs. deca
    on: 2013-05-21 03:13:18
    I noticed in the forum here that there seems to be more people using test p and npp, rather than test-e or test-cyp and deca...are they more effective with shorter life ester?

    I'm primarily looking to gain mass while keeping a hard/vascular physique. I'm an ecto/meso, 5'10"/210 pds, very low bodyfat. I gain mass fairly steadily but I seem to gain very little weight from any cycle I do.

    After 12-16 weeks, I alternate cycles and change the 750 mg test-e/600mg bold undec per week with 750mg test Cyp or Sust/400-600mg deca for 12-16 weeks. I also add a low dose of Masteron 150mg/week to both cycles since I'm a sex addict, lol.

    I also use either dbol, anadrol or winstrol for orals with those cycles. (I never do more than 1 oral at a time).

    After reading through the forums, I'm curious, would I get better results using test-prop and npp?

    Also, what would be the best way to use injectable Tren...would it be beneficial to add 300mg/week to one of my cycles above or would it work better to use Test-(?) /Tren E (?)mg 3X week without deca or boldenone included?

    Thank you in advance, you rock!

  • IFBB Undercover
    Re: test-p vs test-e or test cyp and npp vs. deca
    on: 2013-05-22 03:40:19

    as for looking lean and hard while growing, of course you wont look contest ready while trying to add new muscle. you have to eat enough to grow and often, that means eating a few more calories than your body will be able to use. that doesn't mean that you have to walk around bloated and overly fat. it's all in finding a balance but if you aren't gaining muscle, you aren't eating enough. remember that to get to 220, its going to take a lot more food than it did to get to 210.


    when it comes to adding mass, i beleive you are better off with longer esters. they will build up more over time, raising your hormone levels higher than fast acting compounds with less injections. sure you can still gain muscle on prop but my personal thought is why use a test that is 100mg/ml when you can use one that is 250mg. i like to switch my tests every cycle. if i use cyp this time, i'll use test e the next. then sust on the following. i dont know if it makes a huge difference, but i personally feel like it does change things. depending on how many times you've run 750mg, maybe its time to push that a little further? maybe go to 250 EOD. that'll take you to an average of 875mg test wk. 


     


    if you decide to use tren, i would not suggest starting it for the first time with deca. both being 19-nor based drugs, there is a better chance of getting gyno related issues. on the other hand, tren and eq go very well together. i would suggest you start out with the ace ester, so you can see how you respond to tren. it is very different IMO from other AAS and the side effects can be a struggle for some. i'd start with 50mg EOD for a few wks and if you feel comfortable by wk 4, i would up it to 75mg EOD, possibly 100EOD, at the most. you can also break that down into ED injects if you desire to. personally, thats what i like to do and i find the sides to be less that way. if the side effects become bad, you can easily lower your dose and within a couple of days, you will see major releif. if you go with tren e, you are stuck with it for at least a wk or two.