HRT and cycles

  • MIkey
    HRT and cycles
    on: 2014-01-04 21:32:34
    First off, I cannot thank you enough for this site and the info offered. I have learned so much and will be starting my first cycle soon with confidence. I am also at the point in my life, where HRThas been recommended. My test level was recently 300 and has dropped about 25 ng/dl every year. I will do my first cycle before starting HRT.1 what is your recommendation on PCT while on HRT? 2. If I am on HRT is HCG , Arimidex important? IF so how long?3. Where would HGH come in to play and would you use it?4. I am assuming HRT would be straight Test Cyp-so would it be okay to replace it with Enanth? Just thinking
  • IFBB Undercover
    Re: HRT and cycles
    on: 2014-01-07 06:22:03

    You're welcome bro. I'm glad that we have this venue and that I can help everyone here. 

    The goal of running PCT is to recover your natural HPTA, ASAP after the cycle has ended. For someone using HRT, there is no need to do PCT after a cycle. If you are doing a long acting test cycle, say 500mg test cyp EW, I would simply wait 2-3 wks and go to your HRT dose. On any cycle, I would suggest using a low dose of adex to control estrogen around .5mg 2-3times a wk for a 500mg test only cycle. I would continue on this adex dose past your last cycle injection and up to you start HRT dosing. At that point, I would lower your adex as needed. The only way to know for sure how much adex you need, is to get labs done to see where your estrogen level is. I have a close friend that needs .5mg EOD while using 100mg test cyp E5D for HRT, while another needs .5mg 1x wk for 200mg EW. The range can be wide. You can get a ballpark "feeling" for where you want to dose your adex. Too little and you may experience more than usual fluid retention, or possibly even gyno. Too much and you may experience loss of sex drive and or ED, as well as suffer dry/painful joints. It can take some time to figure out. As for HCG, some endo's turn to HCG as the sole form of HRT, to first see how the patient responds to low doses to increase natural production. 250iu 2x wk, to the high end, 500iu 2x wk. HCG will also help with teste shrinkage while running test long term as HRT. Cyp and test e are interchangeable. As long as the dosing is the same, you can use either. If you are self prescribing, 200mg every wk to 2 wks is pretty standard. I would focus on using the least amount possible to get the best results. Over the long run, you can experience issues, like elevated liver enzymes and hemoglobin. It would be in your best interest to have a Dr over see what you are doing, even if it is only to have labs done. 

    As for GH in HRT, it is a great addition. The key is getting ahold of high quality GH. I just read this very interesting article today, over at JM, about GH being faked and under dosed. http://juicedmuscle.com/jmblog/content/growth-hormone-part-4 . As I've said before, hyge's are great GH and well worth the investment over generics. GH is often one of those things that you get what you pay for...as long as you have a good source. I have spoken to Naps and he has a direct connection to the producer of Hyge's. And I have used them from him myself. Very good quality. As the article points out, with some shady sources, you may NOT even get what you pay for! 2IU every day, or 5 days on, 2 off, is at the higher end of what a Dr would prescribe for a HRT program. It is good for overall health, including improved sleep, improved skin/hair/nails, reduced wrinkles, ect. Over time, you will see that it increases fat loss and has a good synergy with test, helping to improve lean muscle mass.