tbol and windstol

  • dkg7d
    tbol and windstol
    on: 2014-01-07 01:07:25
    new to the scene and was told to take these to get cut and put on some gains what do u think
  • IFBB Undercover
    Re: tbol and windstol
    on: 2014-01-08 04:35:37

    Getting lean or adding muscle is going to come down to your diet. Some steroids add better suited to one goal, some are better suited to the other. This has more to do with how much fluid they help you retain..not that they actually get you cut. The effect of something like winstrol is dry, so when you are lean, the muscle looks harder. IMO, tbol has a similar effect, without being quite as dramatic.

    I should add, that while taking either of these, it is ideal to take injectable test as your base. Even if it is 1cc EW, it will replace your natural production, which is going to stop when you are on steroids. Winny wont do for you what test will when it comes to the hormonal functions that test provides. Believe me. I speak from expereince. When I was younger, I ran winny only for 4-5 wks and eventaully gave up because I felt like shit. If you are on a cutting diet, an AI like adex can be used at a higher dose, to control bloating from the test. If you are on a muslce gaining plan, you can use a little less adex and use some added fluid to your advantage to recover faster and push heavier weight. 

    As I mentioned in another question that I answered today(and went into a little more detail), there are a host of health issues that can go along with orals being used long term. You're better off using an injectable steroid and adding in the orals for shorter periods of time. Because of the added risk of using orals, you are best served to use the one at a time. I would not stack 2 orals at once. Stack your oral with injectable test. 

    As for your goal, get cut and gain...thats kind of like saying run forward and backward. Pick s direction and commit to it. You dont need to be a slob while adding mass, and in fact, you can even reduce fat a little while growing, but you have to add enough cals to grow new muscle. When you diet the fat off, you have to create a cal deficit. It's all going to come down to the direction you want to go. 

    If you want to cut, you can use the winny. If you want to make some lean gains, use the tbol. Here is how I would set each cycle up. Remember that this or any cycle is going to stunt your natural hormone production and you will need to do PCT 2 wks after your last injection.

    cutting :

    1-10

    test e 250mg EW

    adex .5mg EOD

    3-10

    Winstrol 40mg ED oral, split into 2 daily doses