cycle stack

  • Jake
    cycle stack
    on: 2013-06-12 08:54:54
    I am about to start my second cycle. I was thinking the Andromix but but not sure if i should stack it with something else and if so what would be a good suggestion. Only thing i took was test 250 E. Also how long should i cycle pct and what pct should i take. Looking for a clean lean gain, Right now im about 6' 185lbs.
  • IFBB Undercover
    Re: cycle stack
    on: 2013-06-12 22:20:35

    honestly, sounds like you're a ways off from your next cycle. you should take some time off after pct to let your body recover. once you complete your PCT, you'll need time to let your normal test production return to normal. PCT is just a means to speed that process up. it isnt a cure for being shut down. on the message boards, you'll see guys post that time on plus pct should equal the time you take off between cycles. thats really over general. the only way you can know if you are recovered is to get labs done. it may take longer. it may not. 


     


    next, andromix is not a great cycle for a new user. there is a really good chance that you will be unhappy. this product contains 3 different steriods, which is a lot for a new user. 2 of them are hard to manage for someone without much experience. test prop can be very very painful for someone who isnt used to it, and this cycle will require ED to EOD injects. GP prop has been some of the best, smoothest prop i've used, but still some will expereince pain. prop can make you feel like you were hit with a bat for more than a wk. now couple that with the fact that you'll need to have at least 6 different injection sites and things could get complicated quickly. the second hard to use steroid in this mix is tren. it can be a very wild ride effecting mood, sleep, ability to eat, it can get to be unbearable. not ideal for a new AAS user. plus you can't change the dose since it's premixed. its impossible to lower the tren without lowering everything else.


     


    ideally, you want to add no more than one new compound per cycle so you can see how you respond and adjust from there. since you have no idea how any of the 3 will effect you, what will you do if you start suffering side effects?


     


    if your goal is "clean, lean gains" look to your diet. diet plays the biggest role in the quality of gains you make. some compounds may make you hold more water than others, but that can be controlled and at the end of the day, fluid isnt fat. it can be very beneficial to the muscle gaining process, but too much can be controled with an AI.  when you are ready for your second cycle, here is the suggestion i would make...


     


    1-6


    tbol 40-50mg


    1-12


    test cyp 500mg


    adex .25mg EOD, to .5mg 3x wk should be plenty


     


    PCT starts 2 wks after last injection


    nolvadex 60mg on day 1 of pct, then 40mg ED for the rest of wk one, then 40mg for wks 2 and 3 of PCT