Sorry bro, Either I made a mistake with typing or you misread what I had written. Either way, I'm glad you brought it to my attention. Go with plan B. If anyone tells you to run Tren without test, don't listen to them. That goes for me or anyone else ;) . Except for certain, rare situations, I would always run test with any steroid. Once you introduce a steroid, any steroid, your natural production of test is going to start shutting down. Without exogenous test, you will probably suffer some uncomfortable side effects.