Personally, I don't think that sub-q oil based gear is for me. As you read, I did seem to get some welts from it. Very uncomfortable. That was using 1cc ED. I have used injectable dbol with much success though, a couple of times, taken IM. Of course, the issue with any ED shot, is finding enough sites to make it work. I believe that the injectable is MG for MG stronger than the oral. And "cleaner" too. I feel much less likely to have appetite problems with the injectable. If you want to, give the sub-q shots a try. Try to keep the volume down and see how it goes. If it isn't comfortable, you can always switch to IM.