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  • anonymous940
    First Stack Cycle
    on: 2013-07-16 20:56:38
    Okay here it goes. I have tried taking in all the information from previous questions posted here and some research. I would like to know if I am on the right track or if I need to make some last minute changes to the cycle I plan to start. I am 5'9" 151 lbs at the time of this post about 14% bf, 30 years old. I have always been a hard gainer with a skinny figure. The highest weight I have reached is 180 lbs. I like to think I have known my way around the gym since I was 17 slacking for periods of time ranging from a month to maybe as long as a year here and there but try staying consistent. I have ran 6wk cycles of deca and sustenon individually on occasions throughout the years with no PCT. I know now I was obviously doing it all wrong and doing it when I did not need to. I did not know any better and learned from the wrong ppl. Needless to say I always lose my gains. I have been reading a lot recently and want to do a complete cycle and I want to execute it correctly. Ideally I would like to be at 180 lbs after PCT. The last bulking cycle was sustanon and finished with clen to lean and I was happy with the results but lost it all after having surgery unrelated to training regimen. I will most likely keep the same diet since I liked my results with increased portions aimed at 4000 calories/day. I understand from other posts that my ideal weight would probably require more than one cycle. I am aiming for lean mass. The cycle I found desirable was dbol/test/deca but substitute test e with sustanon because of my familiarity with it. I guess I should also say I have combined deca and sustanon once or twice before but never at the recommended doses for the cycle and never a full cycle. Ok so here is the cycle. I would appreciate any feedback...is this overkill for my first full cycle?

    Sustanon 500mg/wk 1-14
    Deca 400mg/wk 1-12
    Dbol 30mg/day wk 1-5 maybe 6

    I will have adex on hand in case I need it.

    Pct

    Nolva wk 16 - 40/40/20/20
    Proviron wk 7-14 @25mg/day
    Liv-52 throughout
  • IFBB Undercover
    Re: First Stack Cycle
    on: 2013-07-21 03:48:23

    ok bro, lets get to the bottom of this. you may know your way around the gym, but i'm not so sure you know your way around the kichen! muscle gain is about the 22 hrs we are not in the gym. i know what it is to be a hard gainer, believe me. if you really struggle to add mass, you just might need to eat an amount of food that your current mind set might consider INSANE! AAS will help add the muscle only if you feed it. if you have been to 180 before, it'll be easier to get there again, but staying there off of gear will be the real trick. of course you wont look as full, round and hard as you do when you're using, but you can do this. remember that this is all about steps/phases. if you are a real hard gainer, theres a good chance you wont get too fat, even with a super high cal diet. lets get you eating 5 solid meals a day, containing an anaimal protein at 50g and a good clean carb like brown rice, oats or sweet potato at 30-50 grams. i would also make sure you get a high amount of fats from olive oil, mac oil, omega 3 egg yolks, fatty fish and natural nut butters. i would shoot for 200g fat a day. on top of these meals, i would use a couple of shakes containing 50g whey iso, 50 g carbs from either oats or maltodex and 30g fat from natural peanut butter. watch your progress and you'll see if its too much. i dont think it will be though. use the mirror and progess pics. if you're eating enough, you will gain some fat in the process, but you dont have to get sloppy. this is just part of the process and if you want to make big gains, you have to put your ego to the side for a period of time. eat like this before the cycle, during the cycle and after the cycle. if your BF goes up, reduce the carbs a little, but as long as you dont get overly sloppy, you can remove the fat later. everyone wants everything all in one shot, but it doesnt work that way. so this is phase 1. phase 2 will come a few months after PCT when your body has gotten used to the new muscle. thats when, if you choose, you could better reduce the BF without as much risk of losing new muscle. see, when you first make new gains, your body would much prefer to shed them because large amounts of muscle are not practical for your body to fuel. first change it gets, it will let it go.


     


    1-12


    sust 500mg EW


    deca 300 to 400mg EW


    1-6


    dbol 30mg


     


    PCT starts 3 wks after your last shot. test,deca, dbol is a tried and true classic. you should make some good gains off of this. split your shots into 2x wk