blood pressure

  • anonymous318
    blood pressure
    on: 2013-08-13 00:53:07
    how to keep blood pressure normal when using gear? I do 200mg.deca weekly with 20mg. dianabol daily.i realy like this stack but my blood pressure goes thru the roof after 2 to 3 weeks.many experts including Daniel duchaine say this is a safe stack whit minimum side effects.
  • IFBB Undercover
    Re: blood pressure
    on: 2013-08-13 05:35:35

    duchaine was a real revolutionary in the world of gear but you have to understand, there has been a lot of development and understanding about AAS since then. i wouldnt agree about deca and dbol being low side effect drugs, if thats what he said. not by a long shot! dbol is notorious for massive fluid retention and estrogen related sides like gyno. in fact, IME with people using gear, i think that dbol is more responsible for gyno than any other AAS. IME with deca, it shuts me down harder than any other AAS and is harder to recover from. back in the day, they werent as hip on test, like we are today. really, you want to have some test in every cycle because as i've mentioned several times here in the Q/A, once your body senses these other AAS, it will stop producing test and these other steroids will not keep your normal functions in tact like test will. over time, you'll feel more lethargic, tired, less motivated, possibly lose appetite, lose sex drive and sevual interest. test is what makes us MEN and believe me, you dont want to walk around in life without it. and honestly, i bet you could have run a low dose test cycle, gained just as much muscle and delt with way less sides. 

    now the doses you have used are very low and i admire that. you can gain a great deal on 20mg dbol, but a lot of the young guys now days dont listen to me when i tell them that. i talk to guys who insist on taking 50mg for their first run! really no need, and when you increase the dose of a steroid, the chance of side effects go up. so, this being said, even though this is considered a low dose of dbol, it is still enough to cause some serious fluid retention. if you are getting high BP in 2 wks, there is no question it is from the dbol. your estrogen is probably very high right now. what you'll want to do is run a low dose of an AI, to get this water under control. the key is not to wipe estrogen out totally. you want just enough to lower this fluid. adex would work well. start with 1mg on the first day and then drop it down to about .5mg 2x wk. see how that works. and personally, if i were you, i would STOP the deca now. you're only 2 wks in. its going to take several wks for it to even work. i'd finish this as a dbol only cycle for around 6-8 wks total. then run a PCT. if you want to use this deca, get ahold of some test. you can keep the doses very low, say 1cc test and 1cc deca for 12 wks. this would be a good low dose cycle. add the adex to that cycle as well and also do PCT after.

    i'd also like to point out that diet will play a major role in how much fluid you retain. the cleaner you eat, the less water you'll gain. keep the sodium consistent from day to day and dont go overboard with it. also drink plenty of water. at least 1 gallon a day. this will help to push fluid out