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On TRT, Tren/Test cycle without Dr knowing

  • undercut69
    On TRT, Tren/Test cycle without Dr knowing
    on: 2015-03-01 17:46:58
    Hey brother, I'd like to ask a few things.. I'm young, 5'9 150lbs sub 10% body fat. My friends all think I'm huge (lol). My natty T levels with no previous cycles were 30 (250-1200) range.I feel much better on TRT and I'm happy staying on for life, this takes away the stress of PCT.This is my first real cycle, besides Epistane and Test, followed by losing all of my gains because my T levels were already shit, and didn't have the motivation to workout or eat much with the depression that came after.I realize most will say no to Tren on a first cycle, but I'm not susceptible to hair loss, acne is good, can control my anger. Plus I already have the Tren lol.On hand I have plenty of Cyp, a vial of Prop, and a vial of Tren.I'd like to gain some nice mass while keeping my body fat where its at (est 6-9%).I also have (Mild) gyno, and am aware of the Tren (progestin) increasing succespitibility to gyno via increasing estrogen in mammory glands. As well as the test converting to Estradiol.CYCLE:50mg ED of Test Prop 1-4200mg Test Cyp 1-8 (I'd go higher, and longer but the long ester worries me because my doc tests my T levels every 3 months.Tren Ace 25mg EoD 1-8SUPPORTS:Letrozole .5 ED or EoD depending on nipples. Pramipexole: titrating up, counteracting prolactin effects of Tren.Hawthrone berry for blood pressure.Red yeast rice for cholesterol.Anything you'd change? I'd like to keep Tren low, unless I can handle increasing it to 50mg EOD.Thanks for your time brotha
  • IFBB Undercover
    Re: On TRT, Tren/Test cycle without Dr knowing
    on: 2015-03-19 02:48:13

    Only thing I'd say is, be sure to give yourself plenty of time before you go in to do labs with your Dr, if you are concerned about him knowing. There is a lot of info about half lifes of gear online, but this stuff doesn't always hold true. I've had lab results showing crazy high numbers when I would have calculated them being down around normal. Gear can hang around for a lot longer than I once thought! So if you go in for blood work every 3 months, I would go on for 8 wks as you have outlined and no longer, just to be safe. Not to mention, you want to give time for your E2 and everything else to go back to normal. If you have high BP, you should make sure you take care of that with a real pharm medication. There are lots of good ones out there that your Dr can help you with. As for cholesterol, take a high quality fish oil at 3g a day and make sure you get plenty of fiber in your diet. Cholesterol is going to get thrown out of wack on cycle, espeically on tren, but with time off, it will go back to normal. 

    As for tren in a first cycle...you're obviously going to do what you are going to do, but its more than just what you can tollerate. Its also a matter of getting the most out of the least. You have a very moderate dosed plan. I like seeing that. But just remember, get the most out of the least and leave yourself room to add more gear and more powerful gear, in future cycles when your body is no longer responding to lower doses or more mild compounds