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Tren....it's not for everyone?

  • anonymous675
    Tren....it's not for everyone?
    on: 2015-08-18 16:31:14
    Hey bro thanks again for all the great help. I have attempted to use tren long and short esters 3 times unsuccessfully, the reason I stop is because I get well...crazy super pissed at everything but I love the results. I understand that deca and tren are both nandrolones that produce progesterone or rather convert to progesterone. I have used deca at 250mg successfully many times without using a progesterone blocker like cabar or the dostinex (not sure if that's what it's called). I have also read that users who take the cabar say the sides from that drug is also harsh. I know what u and everyone are prob thinking by now come bitch handle ur shit I know I know believe me I want to. Is it the progesterone conversion of the tren that makes me crazy? Or something else in the tren ? I also want to sadly admit the doses I took of tren were at HALF recommended for bb. So I used 200week tren e and another time 50mg eod tren a. Is there no hope for me using tren and just stick with deca? I don't like getting fat from deca but joints feel great. Just tell me how it is bro don't sugar coat it. I would have to admit I'm not the strongest mentally at times I think that may be it. I understand that tren is 5 times more powerful than test but I have also ran test successfully at 750-1000mg week. Thanks man you are the best and good luck with your shows and training.
  • IFBB Undercover
    Re: Tren....it's not for everyone?
    on: 2015-09-01 03:53:43

    Hey brother, great question. Reading message boards, it can be easy to think that when you're cutting body fat, you're a sucker if you don't use tren. But look, I will tell you first hand, I have gotten lean, and I mean super lean...in fact, and I'm not bragging, but I will venture to guess, leaner than most of the population ever will. And guess what, I have done it without tren. I have also dieted with tren and gotten wicked lean, but I have done it without tren and done just fine. So don't think that you are ever limited by a drug, bro. It all comes down to how hard you work and what your diet is like. Yes, the right drugs will add to your look, but you don't have to depend on any single drug to get there. 

    When I got into wicked conditioning without tren, this was my cycle :

    GP Test Prop 100mg EOD

    GP Mast 100mg EOD for the last 8 wks

    GP MENT 75mg EOD for the last 6 wks

    GP Winny 50mg oral ED for the last 4 wks

    Also used adex clen and T3

    Now I'm not saying you need to take all of this to get ripped either, but that was my stack, in case you were interested. I got down to what was probably 3% body fat. The leanest guy on stage that day, no question. 

     

    Now lets get to why you felt the way you did. It isn't because of tren being an 19 nor. It isn't because of progesterone. It has to do with how powerful of an androgen it is. Some steroids are more likely to cause added mass, like deca. Others are more likely to cause masculinization like side effects...strength, agression, ect. You can get a good effect for hardening up with other compounds that are less likely to cause this issue. Look at masteron or primo, anavar and of course it looks like you have had no issues with test. Always run test in your cycle. Then control estrogen with an AI and you are set. If you want to burn fat faster, clen and T3 are a fast route. 

     

    For anyone interested in working one on one, on an individual diet plan, to make the most out of your next phase in training. Reach out to me at the Next Level Nutrition page, here at Naps Gear. Send me a message there to tell me what your goals are and when you would like to start. Right now, I'm on track to have people started in about 1 wk from the time they sign up.