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  • H20poloCM
    Bulk+Cut Cycle Structure
    on: 2013-04-24 12:23:43
    Hello again,
    You helped me edit a cycle with me over the weekend and I wanted to clarify a couple points. Im back I the gym after a hernia repair from a car accident and have lost a significant amount of weight; I’m 27y/o 6’4”, and currently 205lbs approx 10-12%(omron) from 230lbs approximately 7-8%BF. My goal is to put back on a few solid pounds before cutting down some BF.
    I originally submitted a 12 week cycle:
    Bold(600mg): Weeks 1-12
    Test E(600mg): Weeks 1-8
    NPP(500mg): Weeks 1-8
    T-bol(50mg): Weeks 1-4
    Tren(350mg): Weeks 18-12
    Test prop(400mg): Weeks 8-12
    Clen(750mcg/ED): Weeks 8-12
    Anavar(50mg/ED) : Weeks 8-12
    T3(50mg/ED): Weeks 8-12
    Letro(25mg/ED): Weeks 1-12
    HCG(500iu's/E3D): Weeks 6-12
    & a few of other ancillaries.

    PCT :
    Arimidex
    Clomid
    HCG

    You requested I lengthen the cycle to 16weeks, and modify it as:
    16 EQ, Clen, T3, AI of your choice
    1-8 Test E, NPP
    9-16 Tren A
    12-16 Anavar

    I have lengthened it and ordered all of the compounds mentioned plus a few dozen other things. However I am curious: What effect should I expect from Bold? Would it be alright no to take the NPP and front load with T-bol? Since the half life is so much shorter with NPP, would a lower dose(400mg) suffice? Should I not take Test (prop or Eth) for the second half? Should I not front load with T-bol? How should I structure the Clen for so long; I ordered Ketotifen to help cleanse my receptors so I can take it for an extended period, but still considered taking it 2weeks on and 2weeks off. I also was considering doing 3 ½ weeks of the second half with Tren A and the other 3 ½ weeks of GP Andromix; should I do one or the other or is this ok(since it includes Test prop)? Also I have a full and thick head of blonde hair, but has DRAMTICALLY thinned and is receding in the frontal region, from the use of Tren and Test prop the last couple cycles. I am concerned with this issue since I want to run Finasteride or Dutasteride, but love Deca! How long after I stop the NPP, can I take either without the adverse effects of the two combining. I have taken other external measures to help block DHT with topical solutions/ shampoo’s/ creams, but nothing compares the the internal blocking/inhibiting nature of those two drugs.
    Thank you again for your advice and help.
    H20poloCM
  • IFBB Undercover
    Re: Bulk+Cut Cycle Structure
    on: 2013-04-24 22:47:44

    IMO with the test, if you take test e all the way through or switch to prop, it wont make a huge difference as long as you used enough of your AI to control estrogen (if you choose to run the test e till the end. of course you'll need to do more injects with the prop tto get the same amount of test, but if you're ok with that, it certainly is an option. i do like switching test esters every 8-10 wks, but if you don't, it wont be the end of the world. 


    as far as tbol, thats certainly an option, but just keep in mind that this is already a decent amount of gear without it and i would expect you to do pretty well minus the oral. npp will kick in pretty fast and you should start to see benefits in the gym within a couple of wks.


     


    as for the tren vs andromix, i would go with one or the other. i feel that 3 wks is just a little shy of what i feel would be beneficial for masteron. least i would run it is 4 wks. 


     


    as for the idea of using a DHT blocker, i was speaking in more of a genreal way and not in respect to this cycle. i would be hesitant to use finasteride with npp and tren both. i don't have personal expereince with doing so, but i've heard that tren may have a similar effect as running a blocker with deca/npp. also keep in mind that even if tren/blocker didnt speed up hair loss, it will only will block test based drugs. tren would still attack your hair line


     


    as for clen. i personally dont like 2 wks on, 2 off. i start with 40mcg and add 20mcg e2w until i hit 120mcg and stay there for the rest of the cycle. at about 6 to 8 wks in, i will begin using benadryl at 50mg every night. you will get a little desensitized over time, but the clen will still work all the way through. dont mistake the side effects for the effect. just because your hands aren't shaking doesn't mean it isn't working. i hardly feel any sides from clen other than lower blood pressure and it works very well for me long term