• 0351
    on: 2015-11-03 21:10:18
    thanks for the input man, i decided not to run the drop and went with the prop and OT instead, because i my time period may have been extended, I've been home a week and on the gear for a few days less than that, I've gained 4 lbs and my appetite is through the roof, my strength is coming back after not being able to lift properly for 2 months and i feel fantastic, i did read that tren and test fight for the same receptor and that its best to run the tren at a higher dose than the test, any input on this?? ill keep you updated, thanks for the help man
  • IFBB Undercover
    Re: reply
    on: 2015-11-11 02:08:42

    Nice man. I remember your question. Just to catch everyone up that didn't see our first conversation, you're the guy that was coming home and had 4 wks to run a short cycle. You were planning to run Oral Tren and another oral, can't remember which off hand. Think it was Drol. My suggestion was to stick with 1 oral, since they are both so toxic, and combine that with test prop or TNE. 

    So, glad to hear from you brother and glad to hear that you went this direction. Everyone is entited to their own decisions and at the end of the day, it's your body. I don't have the right to tell anyone what they shouldn't do, but I really do care about you guys and my suggestions are to get you the best possible results while minimizing risks. I've seem some bad stuff happen to guys over the years. It's usually been when they didn't have a good understanding of what they were doing or they got greedy and tried to take too much, for too long to make up for other holes in their nutrition, training or commitment. Everyone always thinks it isn't going to happen to them, until it does. 

    But anyway, to your next question. I dont like this idea of running tren higher than test. Everyone is so afraid of getting "deca dick" from prolactin build up from deca and tren. This has always been a real and major issue. The answer to this has been to focus on test as your base and then add tren or deca on top of that to more or less direct your gear toward the way you want it go, for cutting or bulking up, then add caber if needed. But in the last couple of years, it's become popular to run tren high, much higher than test. So I don't know what the deal is now. Did "deca dick" just magically go away? I don't think so. This is a real thing and it's going to be an issue for many guys that try this. Next lets look at health. Tren is some wicked stuff. You can get great results from low low doses of tren. I've gotten contest ready using higher test, higher masteron, and 50mg tren EOD for 6 wks. Then 2-3 more wks at 50mg ED. And at those doses, I saw a kick ass effect while not taxing my body as hard as if I were running it high. 

    So in short, I suggest that you rely on test as your base and then add in these other steroids to get the effect you are looking for, not the other way around. And all steroids attach to the same receptor but there is no need to worry about "locking" it up with too much test. Thats just BS and IMO, an excuse for guys to take way too much of a very strong steroid