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Second cycle recommendation please.

  • anonymous825
    Second cycle recommendation please.
    on: 2016-04-04 00:56:40
    Hello sir, I am 30 years old, been training for 13 years, 6' 252lbs @ 10-12% bodyfat. I have been on HRT for 2 years and have run one cycle of 500mg/test cyp and 500mg/EQ per week for 20 weeks. I have been back on HRT dose (200 mg/wk) for about 6 months and I am trying to come up with a plan for a second cycle. I have been leaning towards test/deca/winstrol but I am interested in your recommendations as to how to run it. I was thinking 5oo mg/week for both test and deca. I have been wanting to work winstrol into the cycle and am hung up on which form to take it in. I like the thought of injections vs. oral just for my liver's sake. seeing as the injections would be water based I would imagine I could just do a daily subcutaneous injection with an insulin pin which I wouldn't mind. Is there any real advantage of injectible vs oral for a cycle like this? I was thinking of running a 12 week cycle and would like your thoughts on whether this is a good cycle length and if I should run the winstrol the entire time or bring it in after a couple of weeks. I have adex on hand as part of my HRT and I would plan on resuming HRT test dose once the cycle is through. All of these variables are in play per your recommendation and if you would like to recommend a completely different second cycle I would be open to that as well. Thank you for your time.
  • IFBB Undercover
    Re: Second cycle recommendation please.
    on: 2016-04-27 02:52:00

    Im not sure what your goal is. Winstrol is considered a "cutting" drug, producing no fluid retention for most men, but deca is more of a "bulking" drug and will produce great amounts of fluid. If cutting is your goal, you may find that you will do better with NPP, which is fast acting deca. You would want to take about 400mg EW, split into EOD shots, 100mg per shot. You could split your test e into 1/2cc per shot and reach your dosing while keeping your injects the same every time. I believe this would couple much better with the Winny. As for winny, even the injectable version does eventually have to pass through the liver. It will still be more toxic than a non 17-AA steroid. For this reason and becuase it can cause joint issues, I would suggest running it no longer than 8 wks at the most. 6 wks would be more ideal. I woudl go with the oral as it is much easier to take. The water based shots can be very painful and are more prone to infection than oil based gear. If you do use the water based winny, you want to do ED shots. Geneza does make an oil based winny if you do want to go with injections. Injectable or oral, here is how I would run the cycle for 12 wks

     

    1-12

    Test 500mg EW

    adex .5mg to 1mg EOD

    3-12

    NPP 100mg EOD

    7-12

    Winstrol 50mg ED

     

    If you prefer, you could always swap out the winny for masteron, which is a great DHT based steroid. 100mg EOD