Amen to that. Sometimes those research chem sites are good and other times, down right awful. Believe me. I work with a lot of people and I see a big difference when someone is using research vs pressed tabs from Geneza or another good brand. I would not trust my show to anything less! So you're on clen. Next step would be T3, but really it all comes down to diet and cardio. If you dont get shredded, it was not becuase you didn't take enough drugs. I dont want to post client pics up here, but I am working with a MPD guy that is 1 wk out and he's sitting at what looks to be 3% right now. Down right shredded. Heres the kicker, he is pretty much natural. We have used clen and a little yohimbine HCL, which works well with clen. Outside of that, he is going to be way more ripped than a lot of the guys standing next to him that took way more