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4th cycle- Mediocre results

  • Moomoo
    4th cycle- Mediocre results
    on: 2017-01-11 07:05:00
    Hello sir! Thank you in advance! I am 29, 217 lbs, 15%bf. I'm at the end of my 4th cycle and I wasn't blown away by the results. For my next (5th) I would really like more dramatic results (duh). Current cycle: 16 weeks. Test E - 500/w. Bold - 500/w. Sust - 270/w for first 5 weeks. Anavar - 100/d for 7 weeks. Proviron - 50/d for entire cycle. Letro - 1.25/eod for entire cycle. I have 1 week left then going into pct, I am familiar with that process. I gained about 10 lbs of lean muscle. My assessment is 1. the test was too low 2. Anavar may have been underdosed or fake since 100/d is a lot. This was the only compound I purchased from a different site.. 3. I could have gotten more for bang for my buck by substituting the proviron with something else. What do you think about this cycle? Tren has worked for me in the past, but I get awful night sweats, that is why I ran this without it. Any suggestions on that side note? Should I up the test by 200-300 or go for the Sust instead? Sust+tren+another compound? Sust gives me cold/flu symptoms even at 1-1.5 ml/week. I feel like I need to simplify, dose higher, and lose the luxury compounds. Next cycle will start around June/July and will be for lean bulk. Thanks!
  • IFBB Undercover
    Re: 4th cycle- Mediocre results
    on: 2017-01-21 00:00:00

    Hey buddy, if you gained 10 lbs of lean mass on a cycle, that is OUTSTANDING. If you can do that every cycle, you will be huge in no time. think about a lb of hamburger. Now think of 10 lbs and how much mass that is. I have a feeling some of what you gained is not ALL real muscle/lean tissue but you are probably growing quite well and you made a solid move in the right direction.  The cycle you are on looks good. Ok so Var could be considered a luxury compound but EQ is not. When you run more of one drug (say test) you get more sides than if you were to use less test than that but also add in an anabolic like EQ that will compliment your goals and not be as bad in side effects. The worst side effects I got from test was when I decided to cut the other compounds out and just use more test. If you do something like 500 test, 400 EQ for 12-16 wks, along with a possible oral kick start like dbol for the first 6 wks, you can make crazy progress as long as you are lifting your most intense and eating enough of the right foods. Totally can be done. With your experience, I could see you doing a low dose of tren on top the test/eq.With all these compounds I bet you will notice something at 50mg EOD. If you still have issues, look to the diet. You might be eating good foods but if your body is not growing, you are not getting enough of them per day. It can take an incredible amount of food to grow just a few lbs of muscle and as you grow, it will only take more. If you need more help with diet, reach to me on the next level nutrition page here on Naps to work on a plan. Otherwise the responses are here. You can learn for yourself in the QA looking back at all of the previous questions. Believe me, you aren't the first guy with this problem haha. Its what we are all up against. Best of luck brother