As I’ve talked about before, tren E is not my suggestion for a first time tren user. If you are planning to come off and recover from this cycle I would limit it to 16 wks total. The last 8-10 wks, I would then use Tren ace. I’d start with 50mg, then i you are doing well and want to increase, 75mg EOD for several weeks. Then finally 100mg EOD if tolerated and desired. Ive done contests with low tren and gotten very good results.