I run into the same issue with Drol especially. Dbol not quite as much. I found that injectable Dbol does not impact my appetite. I like 50mg about 1.5 hours before training on training days only TNE works great for me. I’ve heard mixed reviews.Some like it. Some dont. For me, its been a great pre workout blast. Also, NPP kicks in faster than long acting compounds and does not kill appetite.