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Ending cycle and PCT plan

  • erob9024
    Ending cycle and PCT plan
    on: 2019-01-23 21:33:18
    I'm on week 10 of a 12-14 week cycle, and it's my first. For the past 6 months or so I've been spending half of my day learning about every aspect of steroid use. It's all fascinating and I feel very educated but I need some help with this one. I've been running test e 500mg/wk, deca 250mg/wk, started winny last week at 50mg ed, anastrozole .5mg ed, and nolvadex 20mg as of yesterday when I felt a lump and itchiness under my left nipple. In addition I've been taking coq10/L-carnitine fumarate, liver G.I Detox, Ester C, vitamin D3, B-complex, Glucosamine/Chondroitin w/MSM, EPA/DHA, Calcium magnesium, BCAAs, basic whey protein, and a baby aspirin to smooth out my blood from all the HDL I must be lacking. This is all followed with a well balanced diet and 1.5 gallons of water a day.Nearing the end of my first cycle I'm not sure how I want to run my PCT. Some sources say Hcg and nolva with an AI are enough and others say you need to throw clomid in there too. From what I've read about clomid I'd like to forget it, but if needed I'll run it. Same thing with Provirin. If you could also let me know which needles/syringes to use that would be amazing. This was supposed to be a 12 week cycle, and I finished the Deca this week (10), but truth is I was waiting for my paycheck to buy the PCT supplies. I know that is a rookie mistake to start a cycle without PCT support (especially considering Naps takes a month for delivery) but I won't make this mistake again. Instead of extending the test e 500mg/wk another 2 weeks than I planned should I consider using those two weeks to taper? I know PCT starts two weeks from the last pin, but just in case something happens at customs and I don't get my supplies, I want to receive it in the mail before I go off cycle. With the information I've provided I would really appreciate it if you help me build a solid PCT protocol. Lastly, should I consider throwing legal supplements such as tribulis, D-aspardic acid, fenugreek, DHEA, creatine, and a simple zma complex in there as well to speed things up? I'm 24 years old old standing 6'1" 210 and work out 4-5 times a week. Hopefully being young helps me bounce back ASAP so I can start a new cycle. Only thing stopping me from blasting and cruising is money and I'd like to have kids some day. Sorry this is so long, but I really do appreciate your help more than you know. No amount of reading internet sources or blogs can help as much as asking a pro.
  • IFBB Undercover
    Re: Ending cycle and PCT plan
    on: 2019-01-30 09:51:16

    When you get the time, listen to Advices Radio #89 with Dr Dean St Mart. Just google it or on podcast. He provides some interesting insight. Its not exactly what I would do with time frames but its interesting to listen to. First I want to note that if you run the deca all the way to the end, you want to wait 3 wks before PCT, instead of 2 wks. If you come off the deca sooner, then sure, maybe more like 2 wks. I would start your HCG now, running 250iu 2x wks and I would run it right up until you start PCT (assuming you have enough to do that). And I would run a low dose of AI through the period after you’ve stopped gear, just to keep your estrogen in control. Personally when I did PCT, I saw better results with clomid than Nolvadex. You could try nolvadex though. So if you choose Nolvaex, 40mg ED for a week, then I would do 3 more weeks at 20mg. I would also continue a very low dose of AI through this and still consider it after if you feel at all off. You could use D Aspartic Acid after you are off the Nolvadex, like 2-3g. And one more thing, I want to back up to the start. You mentioned getting gyno on this cycle? Im not understanding if this is totally under control. If it is not, I would highly suggest making that a priority, even if that means coming off cycle or reducing doses, blasting AI. If it’s not cleared up, make it you life mission starting now. And a last note, just be aware that it's great to have all the education you are developing. I’m obviously also passionate about this stuff but understand that what works is simple. It's basic. There is no need to make your cycles complicated like you see on the boards. Believe it or not, that isnt what the top guys are doing.